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Post by rhrsane on Jun 30, 2008 10:50:34 GMT -5
Do you guys ever stop being not a very nice persons? I've made many attemtps to calm things between your two little smelly pile o poo heads, furry-whatever and Deluzioned, yet they still continue to be jerk offs.
I'm really starting to think this garage is a joke. I've tried to have respect for you guys, but as soon as I start, those two bums take the feeling right away. Thank OutlawxRacer for even making me consider this. He has single handedly given yur garage a shread of respect.
I have plenty of people with plenty accounts that are willing to help me tear you guys to shreads. I don't want to do this. I'd rather go the grown up route and settle this as men. This is the third time I've brought this up, and tried to resolve things. Twice in the forza forums, and now once here. There has been effort from me, now it's time to show that this group of little boys has someone who can step up and be a leader.
[edit]LOL,i like how it changed all my curse words....
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Post by Redneon on Jun 30, 2008 10:56:28 GMT -5
ok i am the leader....i am a grown up...and this is the first time any of this has been brought to my attention....so let me say as the leader of pbt that i hold all member to a certain level regardless of it being a team-rlated comment or now...second..can you please post the story as i am honestly in the dark right now and dont have a ton of time to moniter every post made by the team...we can work this out like men and as the leader of Poor Boys i am the ONLY person you should talk to in regards to an action you feel is negative of any team member...you can either pm me here or on the FM.net forums and ill be more tahn glad to try to work everything out...and furry and deluzioned please let the man speak with me first ....do not respond or further complicate the issue.
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Post by Redneon on Jun 30, 2008 10:57:06 GMT -5
oh btw im redneonrt4d00r1 on the fm.net forums
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Post by Redneon on Jun 30, 2008 11:22:15 GMT -5
evidenca and my opinions of random posts i can find on FM.net ::::::::::::::::::::: Posted by furry SaNe 1320: Omega79: I should be able to jump on, I guess we'll all just have to watch for each other, I may not even try just to make it a little easier for everyone if it goes crazy. one of the poor boys (outlaw racer) just bid them all...jerk LOL JK I still dont no what your problem is sane with us but the 1/2 staring all our threads, the pregnant doging, the fact you say you are never going to buy another poor boys car (who cares???) just proves how much of an ass you are. Outlaw racer if he bid on them all is because he works hard very hard for his credits he rivals mcmansell as one of the greatest sellers and also one of the most generous he has probably seen this, and as myself, ankarose and a few other of the poor boys want the car but are unable to bid so he might be trying to get us one. Where is the harm in that? ? did he get them all..... NO! so stop your imature whining and just get on with your sad life! havent you got nothing else better to do than start arguments with ppl ALL! the time. I sence a bit of jealousy seen as we wouldnt give you a job haha it was only 2 months ago you wanted to sell for us lol! What a clown! I hope this just shows how imature you are any problems mate you have with exposure just take it to PM cos im sure there are many other ppl BORED! of the crap that comes out of your mouth! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- opinion......i feel that furry has overreacted to the post made by sane....the JK was there so it was a playful post....this could be easily avoided by re-reading all posts before getting upset .... Reds Rule: if you are upset re-read post 10x.. and then again when you are not upset....words can easily be misread and misinterpeted...... IM still going through posts...and please if you have an example post it so i can read and give my leadership official PBT opinion
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Post by Redneon on Jun 30, 2008 11:31:20 GMT -5
ok i went back thorugh 1 mths of posts and that is the only PUBLIC post from furry ...i feel that it is a simple mistake that i could have made if i had not re-read everything
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Post by Redneon on Jun 30, 2008 11:39:03 GMT -5
Deluzioned:Sane did you not read the OP? It doesn't look like it. 2 cars max per person
Mcree (my favorite AG seller) I'll take the Drift S14 and........*** just gimme the lancia
Or can i request the 49sec 22b? if i can then nix the lancia for that
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Not to mention you just took up a post that someone could have made a request in ---------------------------------------------------------------------- response by sane: Deluzioned: Sane did you not read the OP? It doesn't look like it. 2 cars max per person
Mcree (my favorite AG seller) I'll take the Drift S14 and........*** just gimme the lancia
Or can i request the 49sec 22b? if i can then nix the lancia for that
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Not to mention you just took up a post that someone could have made a request in
he changed the OP after my first post and I didn't read it the second time I posted...why don't you find another way to be a jerk.
Deluzionized, you obviously didn't learn anything today with the 3 other threads dedicate to stopping these types of things from starting...
McCree, i'll just take this up ith you in PM and stop posting off topic junk in this thread:
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Red's opinion:both of you used attitude that stems from somewhere else....its kinda a defensive thing....rather than just posting the normal post del, u had used a bit of sharpness in your words....could have been avoided by just leaving that out....however Sane i feel this response just escalated the issue higher than before....honestly you were not helping the situation and im not condoning del's action ...but the reaction is just as guilty in this circumstance
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Post by Redneon on Jun 30, 2008 11:51:35 GMT -5
im reading alot of stuff....i am trying to get as educated as possible before i post a professional response..
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Post by rhrsane on Jun 30, 2008 12:12:13 GMT -5
my responses to these two will be pretty sharp...at the time this stuff occurs, I'm still receiving harassing PM's from both these guys, stuff you won't be able to read yourself.
I don't mind you reading all that stuff but it's pretty pointless... the point is, I tried to make an effort to resolve things and they decided against it.
as i've stated to you in PMs, i have done my share of wrong, and I openly admit that. I've also done my share to resolve this. you should talk to OutlawXRacer, your 1 seller
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Post by Redneon on Jun 30, 2008 12:18:09 GMT -5
i will talk to everyone soon...until then im asking PUBLICLY that Deluzioned and furry stop pming sane that way we can all work toward the better good...sometimes you just have to let things go regardless of who is right/wrong......
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Post by rhrsane on Jun 30, 2008 12:30:16 GMT -5
agreed... it kind of sucks for me. I like half of your members and love the paints on your cars. i'm not always too happy with some of the tunes, but i also understand that we all drive differently and what may not be good for me, may be great for someone else. either way, because of all this, i refuse to buy them. and i know it doesn't mean much, but my friends refuse to buy tem as well. at least I've boughten a couple before I 1 starred the threads LOL...
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Post by Redneon on Jun 30, 2008 12:42:00 GMT -5
trust em i have a certain 60mil car that i HATE (everyone on pbt knows which one [[ flying brick]]) so i can certainly relate...but as for not buying our cars because of the past conflict....for lack of better words you are not majorly going to hurt the sales...but you may miss out on a car that sets some great times that might work for you....and as for all of our PBT car i personally guarantee satisfaction or just contact me directly for a refund...i think that is something that needs to be stressed in our posts for future use.....as i have stated i will get all sides of the story and do my best to come to some sort of agreement ....whether it be a postitve agreement or negative agreement will be decided in light of ALL the evidence from you, Deluzioned, furry, and any other party that has been affected/involved that i do not know of ...
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Post by deluzioned on Jun 30, 2008 12:51:09 GMT -5
my responses to these two will be pretty sharp...at the time this stuff occurs, I'm still receiving harassing PM's from both these guys, stuff you won't be able to read yourself. Sane might i ask you provide proof of that with dates and times? I have not made any contact with you in a week since all this started in our catalogue thread. YOU are the only 1 sending nasty messages between the 2 of us.
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Post by deluzioned on Jun 30, 2008 12:53:36 GMT -5
I have no idea actually why you started attacking me on my live account again this morning, and rehashed this situation.
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Post by deluzioned on Jun 30, 2008 13:00:38 GMT -5
Check the date. Your reply was a week ago and i thought we had squashed the problem?
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Post by Redneon on Jun 30, 2008 13:00:44 GMT -5
ok we will be discussing this in detail once everything is out in open...please calm deluzioned..i know it can be a touchy thing but i assure you that i will handle this and talk to everyone equally
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Post by rhrsane on Jun 30, 2008 13:00:51 GMT -5
lol...i know i can't hurt your guys sales, you guys do pretty good from what i understand. i was just stating that i no longer do becase of this. can u blame me? i'm honestly not worried about missing out on them either, i can tune and i can drive, so it's not the end of the world. doesn't mean i don't want them. i really like the paint jobs you guys do (mad props to the painter). i would never send a car back, i took the risk as the buyer and deserve to keep it.i was actually planning and going back and re-tuning it. still love the paint and even if it isn't your tune, i'll still show it off like it is while winning races in it
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Post by rhrsane on Jun 30, 2008 13:07:12 GMT -5
Check the date. Your reply was a week ago and i thought we had squashed the problem? notice the subject of this PM and who the initial sender was... it was deluzioned. i have not kept the nasty PMs you have sent me Deluzioned nor do i keep any others i may get, why would i? you dragged it on again by 1 starring both my threads to cars you didn't buy...the thread in the AH part of the forums as well as the oe in the TM...
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Post by rhrsane on Jun 30, 2008 13:08:59 GMT -5
i have also sent you more messages on live which you have chosen to ignore.... you know the ones about stopping all of this and respecting each other. i even sent one today over an hour ago
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Post by Redneon on Jun 30, 2008 13:21:57 GMT -5
well that is actually the team's thought...when this was all heated we advised del to ignore all messages until it could blow over (alot of problems just need to boil down) he may not have meant to ignore the positive posts...rather just ignored it all.....so i take partial blame by advising my team to ignore negative posts/posters and focus on the positive...we all easily can overlook things or make hasty decisions myself included
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Post by rhrsane on Jun 30, 2008 13:25:41 GMT -5
well that is actually the team's thought...when this was all heated we advised del to ignore all messages until it could blow over (alot of problems just need to boil down) he may not have meant to ignore the positive posts...rather just ignored it all.....so i take partial blame by advising my team to ignore negative posts/posters and focus on the positive...we all easily can overlook things or make hasty decisions myself included i understand this...i would've done the same, but that's definitely not why deluzioned ignored it. he wants to drag this out IMO, it's almost like he gets enjoyment out of this... can you please reread and respond to both posts above this? look at the pic of the PM please
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Post by Redneon on Jun 30, 2008 13:28:52 GMT -5
i will adress it all in due time...and believe me there is another team based thread that is addressing everythig in private.....i do not believe showing our inner workings as a team is a public affair but i am doing alot of work behind the scenes trying to get everything at least to a neutral level
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Post by rhrsane on Jun 30, 2008 13:32:01 GMT -5
it's cool...i don't mind it beng done in privat, that's very respectable... let deluzioned know i sent him a message over live over an hour ago. i don't think he's gotten it yet
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Post by Redneon on Jun 30, 2008 13:39:54 GMT -5
i think he is thinking about what to do...which is exactly what i want us members of PBT to do think and respond ONLY after we have thoguth about our actions..
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Post by texanfanatic on Jun 30, 2008 13:52:35 GMT -5
I have kept quiet on the whole situation because I do not want to add further fuel to the fire so to speak. I will not rehash what has happened but prefer to try and set a course for all of us to move forward.
I think it would be mutally beneficial to both parties( PBT and S&R Tuning) to stop the fighting. I think that 1 starring each other threads will not get us anywhere. What is done is done. I didn't like the fact that it was done to our threads but chose to leave it alone instead of retaliate. But now you (Sane) are on the other side releasing the cars and I think you are seeing what we have been dealing with. Furry took the high road and 5 starred the Porsche thread and told you he would like to buy one of your cars. I think this was his effort to move forward. I think now that you(Sane) are releasing cars it would be better for all parties to end this and not continue to ruin each others threads. While I do not condone the way you dealt with us in the past I do hope we can move forward and end the hostilities.
I have an idea that I will pitch to the team that might help fix the problems on the forums. I will post it once the team can agree on it.
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Post by rhrsane on Jun 30, 2008 14:02:18 GMT -5
I have kept quiet on the whole situation because I do not want to add further fuel to the fire so to speak. I will not rehash what has happened but prefer to try and set a course for all of us to move forward. I think it would be mutally beneficial to both parties( PBT and S&R Tuning) to stop the fighting. I think that 1 starring each other threads will not get us anywhere. What is done is done. I didn't like the fact that it was done to our threads but chose to leave it alone instead of retaliate. But now you (Sane) are on the other side releasing the cars and I think you are seeing what we have been dealing with. Furry took the high road and 5 starred the Porsche thread and told you he would like to buy one of your cars. I think this was his effort to move forward. I think now that you(Sane) are releasing cars it would be better for all parties to end this and not continue to ruin each others threads. While I do not condone the way you dealt with us in the past I do hope we can move forward and end the hostilities. I have an idea that I will pitch to the team that might help fix the problems on the forums. I will post it once the team can agree on it. furry one starred it and then changed it after I sent Outlaw a message asking him if he knew why... and just to get it out there, this has nothing to do with S & R, only me. ReaperAZ is a great dude and has never been involved. I tried to resolve this before I even thought of releasing a car, so that really doesn't play a part. If they had bought the car and then 1 starred it, it might have bothered me more. It has made me gain more respect for all garages for the hard work and dedication that goes into releasing them.
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Post by texanfanatic on Jun 30, 2008 14:15:51 GMT -5
I have kept quiet on the whole situation because I do not want to add further fuel to the fire so to speak. I will not rehash what has happened but prefer to try and set a course for all of us to move forward. I think it would be mutally beneficial to both parties( PBT and S&R Tuning) to stop the fighting. I think that 1 starring each other threads will not get us anywhere. What is done is done. I didn't like the fact that it was done to our threads but chose to leave it alone instead of retaliate. But now you (Sane) are on the other side releasing the cars and I think you are seeing what we have been dealing with. Furry took the high road and 5 starred the Porsche thread and told you he would like to buy one of your cars. I think this was his effort to move forward. I think now that you(Sane) are releasing cars it would be better for all parties to end this and not continue to ruin each others threads. While I do not condone the way you dealt with us in the past I do hope we can move forward and end the hostilities. I have an idea that I will pitch to the team that might help fix the problems on the forums. I will post it once the team can agree on it. furry one starred it and then changed it after I sent Outlaw a message asking him if he knew why... and just to get it out there, this has nothing to do with S & R, only me. ReaperAZ is a great dude and has never been involved. I tried to resolve this before I even thought of releasing a car, so that really doesn't play a part. If they had bought the car and then 1 starred it, it might have bothered me more. It has made me gain more respect for all garages for the hard work and dedication that goes into releasing them. Yes but you see it does now effect S&R because your actions directly effect the garages. So it does effect the garage. My point is that we need to stop this so it doesn't blow up even more and involve people who are not related in this issue. You are lumping all of Poor Boys in to the actions of a couple of the members. Now you are part of a garage and your actions will directly tied to the garage for good or bad.
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Post by rhrsane on Jun 30, 2008 14:21:36 GMT -5
this effects S&R but this was going on way before S&R ever came to be...
i'm not sure how I've lumped all the Poor Boys into this...I just haven't boughten cars. I haven't lumped you, Outlaw, or Redneon into any of this.
i may have threatened the whole garage, but that was only an action used to get you guys to finally take me seriously...it's not like I haven't tried multiple times to make this better.
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Post by rhrsane on Jun 30, 2008 14:24:59 GMT -5
I even got a rude PM for trying to calm the situation by saying smething nice in the Asuka Chocolate thread.
I've openly admitted my mistakes and am waiting for Furry and Deluzioned to meet me half way on this and admit theirs.
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Post by stevesq on Jun 30, 2008 14:28:31 GMT -5
It seems to me the only possible solution is to just drop it and stop slamming each other. I admit I was rather put off by the low rating of the Asuka Chocolate, but I can also understand it's not everyone's cup of...cocoa. Anyway, the world of Forza's plenty big that there's no reason to stir up crap. The only adult thing to do in my opinion is to just move on.
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Post by rhrsane on Jun 30, 2008 14:39:04 GMT -5
i obviously gave that thread a 1 star because he PM'd me when i tried to say something nice.
if and when this gets resolved the first thing i'll do is get the star ratings back up to 5 stars
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